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iron and allergy

 I am hoping someone with a little more experience at reading and
understanding medical articles could take a look at these articles and
possibly explain HOW iron seems to be involved in this disease process? The
first article speaks to the fact they have found iron ‘leaks’ when there is
too much in the body. The ‘transferrin’ leaks its cargo of iron and this iron
is known as ‘non transferrin bound iron’. You will notice this happens WHEN
the transferrin becomes about 35% saturated.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=10845658&…
b This article speaks to the involvement of iron in *allergic response* and I
am wondering .. "what does it say?"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=2440461&f…
Does it say we have a *quicker* response/allergic reaction WHEN the
transferrin is ‘full’ or when it is NOT.. full? Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus
was a Vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman Iron In Disease
http://www.waste.org/~lanshark/vegan/iron.html Iron In Disease
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no3/weinberg.htm

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  1. admin says:

    watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote in message

    news:9548r2$30h$1@nnrp1.deja.com…
    > I am hoping someone with a little more experience at reading and
    > understanding medical articles could take a look at these articles and
    > possibly explain HOW iron seems to be involved in this disease process?
    The
    > first article speaks to the fact they have found iron ‘leaks’ when there
    is
    > too much in the body. The ‘transferrin’ leaks its cargo of iron and this
    iron
    > is known as ‘non transferrin bound iron’. You will notice this happens
    WHEN
    > the transferrin becomes about 35% saturated.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=10845658&
    d
    > b This article speaks to the involvement of iron in *allergic response*
    and I
    > am wondering .. "what does it say?"

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=2440461&f
    b

    > Does it say we have a *quicker* response/allergic reaction WHEN the
    > transferrin is ‘full’ or when it is NOT.. full?

    I looked at this person’s posting history, this was the first post to ASA as
    far as I could determine but I didn’t look at all 1100 posts that Deja News
    retrieved.  It’s all about the scourge of iron and preaching about Jesus.
    But then that’s fairly obvious.  I did see one of his statements asking why
    a thread always died when he got involved.  Go figure.

  2. admin says:

    In article <nIid6.982$Jx3.172…@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>,
      "Randy" <randall.camer…@gte.net> wrote:

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    > watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote in message
    > news:9548r2$30h$1@nnrp1.deja.com…
    > > I am hoping someone with a little more experience at reading and
    > > understanding medical articles could take a look at these articles and
    > > possibly explain HOW iron seems to be involved in this disease process?
    > The
    > > first article speaks to the fact they have found iron ‘leaks’ when there
    > is
    > > too much in the body. The ‘transferrin’ leaks its cargo of iron and this
    > iron
    > > is known as ‘non transferrin bound iron’. You will notice this happens
    > WHEN
    > > the transferrin becomes about 35% saturated.

    > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=10845658&
    > d
    > > b This article speaks to the involvement of iron in *allergic response*
    > and I
    > > am wondering .. "what does it say?"

    > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=2440461&f
    > b
    > > Does it say we have a *quicker* response/allergic reaction WHEN the
    > > transferrin is ‘full’ or when it is NOT.. full?

    > I looked at this person’s posting history, this was the first post to ASA as
    > far as I could determine but I didn’t look at all 1100 posts that Deja News
    > retrieved.  It’s all about the scourge of iron and preaching about Jesus.
    > But then that’s fairly obvious.  I did see one of his statements asking why
    > a thread always died when he got involved.  Go figure.

    I guess you can’t figure out the article either.. eh .. Of course it couldn’t
    be implicated in asthma when they are treating cystic fibrosis with
    ‘anti’oxidants.. antirust.. nutrients.. If you can’t add to a thread.. other
    than .. ‘attempting’ to belittle someone.. it is pathetic.. which makes YOU..
    Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus was a Vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman
    Iron In Disease http://www.waste.org/~lanshark/vegan/iron.html Iron In
    Disease http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no3/weinberg.htm

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  3. admin says:

    In article <9548r2$30…@nnrp1.deja.com>,
      watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:

    >  I am hoping someone with a little more experience at reading and
    > understanding medical articles could take a look at these articles and
    > possibly explain HOW iron seems to be involved in this disease process? The
    > first article speaks to the fact they have found iron ‘leaks’ when there is
    > too much in the body. The ‘transferrin’ leaks its cargo of iron and this iron
    > is known as ‘non transferrin bound iron’. You will notice this happens WHEN
    > the transferrin becomes about 35% saturated.
    > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=10845658&
    > b This article speaks to the involvement of iron in *allergic response* and I
    > am wondering .. "what does it say?"
    > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=2440461&f
    > Does it say we have a *quicker* response/allergic reaction WHEN the
    > transferrin is ‘full’ or when it is NOT.. full? Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus

    I’ve been at work with THIS stuff for a ‘few’ years and only JUST found ..
    they changed its name.. Ip6/phytic acid.. http://www.fitonics.com/Ip-6_ab.htm

    I have placed MY ‘credentials’ and I believe I deserve an answer to the above
    question? Does anyone have any idea .. pull some favors .. and find out HOW
    this ‘saturated’ and ‘free’ iron figure in the above article? In ‘normal’
    people the transferrin is NOT ‘saturated’ and there is NO ‘free’ iron in the
    body.. In the article they speak to saturated and free iron *triggering* ..
    ‘something’.. a ‘response’ of some ‘sort’.. NOW.. IS THIS RESPONSE.. a
    ‘typical’ response of someone going into ‘shock/symptoms’? OF.. an
    allergy/asthma .. attack? Simple question to anyone who knows a little more
    than I about asthma/allergy? This question pertains to that ‘ little kid over
    there who can’t breathe a lick’.. and I’m kinda getting tired of asking this
    question over and over again.. Phytic acid a NATURAL chelator REMOVES ‘free’
    iron.. and free iron DOESN’T EVEN APPEAR .. UNTIL.. the transferrin is
    saturated. So this stuff theoretically will cause the body to NOT do WHAT the
    ‘above’ article states free iron causes it to do? Or more like.. "In the
    article.. is the outcome of free iron.. BAD?".. ;) Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus
    was a Vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman Iron In Disease
    http://www.waste.org/~lanshark/vegan/iron.html Iron In Disease
    http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no3/weinberg.htm

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  4. admin says:

    In article <95c6re$vp…@nnrp1.deja.com>, watchman

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    <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:
    > In article <9548r2$30…@nnrp1.deja.com>,
    >   watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:
    > >  I am hoping someone with a little more experience at reading and
    > > understanding medical articles could take a look at these articles and
    > > possibly explain HOW iron seems to be involved in this disease process? The
    > > first article speaks to the fact they have found iron ‘leaks’ when there is
    > > too much in the body. The ‘transferrin’ leaks its cargo of iron and this
    > > iron
    > > is known as ‘non transferrin bound iron’. You will notice this happens WHEN
    > > the transferrin becomes about 35% saturated.

    > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=10845658&
    > > d
    > > b This article speaks to the involvement of iron in *allergic response* and
    > > I
    > > am wondering .. "what does it say?"

    > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=2440461&f
    > > b
    > > Does it say we have a *quicker* response/allergic reaction WHEN the
    > > transferrin is ‘full’ or when it is NOT.. full? Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus

    > I’ve been at work with THIS stuff for a ‘few’ years and only JUST found ..
    > they changed its name.. Ip6/phytic acid.. http://www.fitonics.com/Ip-6_ab.htm

    > I have placed MY ‘credentials’ and I believe I deserve an answer to the above
    > question?

    Usenet is a group of people with common interests, trading information
    freely, and those who participate have no demand responsibility to
    respond to posts of any sort. If your posting arouses interest in any
    of those participants, you might receive replies; if not, you will not.
    If you wish to ask questions with the expectation that you _deserve_
    answers, it may be that you will need to search out a fee-for-service
    relationship.
       Larry

  5. admin says:

    In article <010220011317056961%LPre…@provide.net>,
      Larry Preuss <LPre…@provide.net> wrote:

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    > In article <95c6re$vp…@nnrp1.deja.com>, watchman
    > <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:

    > > In article <9548r2$30…@nnrp1.deja.com>,
    > >   watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:
    > > >  I am hoping someone with a little more experience at reading and
    > > > understanding medical articles could take a look at these articles and
    > > > possibly explain HOW iron seems to be involved in this disease process? The
    > > > first article speaks to the fact they have found iron ‘leaks’ when there is
    > > > too much in the body. The ‘transferrin’ leaks its cargo of iron and this
    > > > iron
    > > > is known as ‘non transferrin bound iron’. You will notice this happens WHEN
    > > > the transferrin becomes about 35% saturated.

    > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=10845658&
    > > > d
    > > > b This article speaks to the involvement of iron in *allergic response* and
    > > > I
    > > > am wondering .. "what does it say?"

    > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=2440461&f
    > > > b
    > > > Does it say we have a *quicker* response/allergic reaction WHEN the
    > > > transferrin is ‘full’ or when it is NOT.. full? Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus

    > > I’ve been at work with THIS stuff for a ‘few’ years and only JUST found ..
    > > they changed its name.. Ip6/phytic acid.. http://www.fitonics.com/Ip-6_ab.htm

    > > I have placed MY ‘credentials’ and I believe I deserve an answer to the above
    > > question?

    > Usenet is a group of people with common interests, trading information
    > freely, and those who participate have no demand responsibility to
    > respond to posts of any sort. If your posting arouses interest in any
    > of those participants, you might receive replies; if not, you will not.
    > If you wish to ask questions with the expectation that you _deserve_
    > answers, it may be that you will need to search out a fee-for-service
    > relationship.

    Oh I would pay to have someone answer my question believe you me.. but..
    "what the market will bear" is not my idea of ‘all of us being in this
    together’.. As to my *expectation* to receiving a reply.. What I mean by that
    is.. you can type in my page.. phytic acid.. in my book.. which is almost ten
    years old now.. and then say I didn’t .. call .. it? Therefore.. NOW .. I
    might be taken a little more seriously… ‘when’ I ask a question? We ARE
    speaking to asthma/allergy and therefore I ‘assumed’… obviously misinformed
    .. that someone on this list would have the ‘connections’ or the intelligence
    to answer the question? If you see what I mean? Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus
    was a Vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman Iron In Disease
    http://www.waste.org/~lanshark/vegan/iron.html Iron In Disease
    http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no3/weinberg.htm

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  6. admin says:

    In article <95clis$en…@nnrp1.deja.com>,
      watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:

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    > In article <010220011317056961%LPre…@provide.net>,
    >   Larry Preuss <LPre…@provide.net> wrote:
    > > In article <95c6re$vp…@nnrp1.deja.com>, watchman
    > > <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:

    > > > In article <9548r2$30…@nnrp1.deja.com>,
    > > >   watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:
    > > > >  I am hoping someone with a little more experience at reading and
    > > > > understanding medical articles could take a look at these articles and
    > > > > possibly explain HOW iron seems to be involved in this disease process? The
    > > > > first article speaks to the fact they have found iron ‘leaks’ when there is
    > > > > too much in the body. The ‘transferrin’ leaks its cargo of iron and this
    > > > > iron
    > > > > is known as ‘non transferrin bound iron’. You will notice this happens WHEN
    > > > > the transferrin becomes about 35% saturated.

    > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=10845658&
    > > > > d
    > > > > b This article speaks to the involvement of iron in *allergic response* and
    > > > > I
    > > > > am wondering .. "what does it say?"

    > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=2440461&f
    > > > > b
    > > > > Does it say we have a *quicker* response/allergic reaction WHEN the
    > > > > transferrin is ‘full’ or when it is NOT.. full? Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus

    > > > I’ve been at work with THIS stuff for a ‘few’ years and only JUST found ..
    > > > they changed its name.. Ip6/phytic acid.. http://www.fitonics.com/Ip-6_ab.htm

    > > > I have placed MY ‘credentials’ and I believe I deserve an answer to the above
    > > > question?

    > > Usenet is a group of people with common interests, trading information
    > > freely, and those who participate have no demand responsibility to
    > > respond to posts of any sort. If your posting arouses interest in any
    > > of those participants, you might receive replies; if not, you will not.
    > > If you wish to ask questions with the expectation that you _deserve_
    > > answers, it may be that you will need to search out a fee-for-service
    > > relationship.

    > Oh I would pay to have someone answer my question believe you me.. but..
    > "what the market will bear" is not my idea of ‘all of us being in this
    > together’.. As to my *expectation* to receiving a reply.. What I mean by that
    > is.. you can type in my page.. phytic acid.. in my book.. which is almost ten
    > years old now.. and then say I didn’t .. call .. it? Therefore.. NOW .. I
    > might be taken a little more seriously… ‘when’ I ask a question? We ARE
    > speaking to asthma/allergy and therefore I ‘assumed’… obviously misinformed
    > .. that someone on this list would have the ‘connections’ or the intelligence
    > to answer the question? If you see what I mean? Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus

    As to getting a ‘simple’ answer to a simple question and the ‘frustration’..
    ;) involved? About four years ago I was reading an article and ‘spotted’
    something. I posted the article to a few lists and asked outright.. "Does
    this article state .. "the immunes system creates an immune system ‘reaction’
    AGAINST.. iron.!" I ‘finally’ .. caught a guy was foolish enough to answer..
    ;) and realizing he ‘knew’ something about this type of stuff.. I had to ask
    him OUTRIGHT .. THREE times in email if it ‘obviously’.. stated that .."the
    immune system ‘turns’ on the iron itself".. "He yelled.. yes..".. ;) Got an
    answer though.. ;)

    This article JUST appears in Medline and it seems the body DOES form
    anti-ferritin/iron .. anti-bodies.. ;) I could be wrong.. I don’t know a
    whole lot about this .. but it appears to be ‘bad’?
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=11045759&
    b You want to hear how Aids patients whose iron transferrin saturation is
    high cannot ‘kick’ the disease OUT of the blood but those with lower
    saturation.. can? Thought not.. ;) — Who loves ya. Tom Jesus was a
    Vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman Iron In Disease
    http://www.waste.org/~lanshark/vegan/iron.html Iron In Disease
    http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no3/weinberg.htm

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    In article <95ept1$8f…@nnrp1.deja.com>,
      watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:

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    > In article <95clis$en…@nnrp1.deja.com>,
    >   watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:
    > > In article <010220011317056961%LPre…@provide.net>,
    > >   Larry Preuss <LPre…@provide.net> wrote:
    > > > In article <95c6re$vp…@nnrp1.deja.com>, watchman
    > > > <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:

    > > > > In article <9548r2$30…@nnrp1.deja.com>,
    > > > >   watchman <watch…@nucleus.com> wrote:
    > > > > >  I am hoping someone with a little more experience at reading and
    > > > > > understanding medical articles could take a look at these articles and
    > > > > > possibly explain HOW iron seems to be involved in this disease process? The
    > > > > > first article speaks to the fact they have found iron ‘leaks’ when there is
    > > > > > too much in the body. The ‘transferrin’ leaks its cargo of iron and this
    > > > > > iron
    > > > > > is known as ‘non transferrin bound iron’. You will notice this happens WHEN
    > > > > > the transferrin becomes about 35% saturated.

    > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=10845658&
    > > > > > d
    > > > > > b This article speaks to the involvement of iron in *allergic response* and
    > > > > > I
    > > > > > am wondering .. "what does it say?"

    > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=2440461&f
    > > > > > b
    > > > > > Does it say we have a *quicker* response/allergic reaction WHEN the
    > > > > > transferrin is ‘full’ or when it is NOT.. full? Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus

    > > > > I’ve been at work with THIS stuff for a ‘few’ years and only JUST found ..
    > > > > they changed its name.. Ip6/phytic acid.. http://www.fitonics.com/Ip-6_ab.htm

    > > > > I have placed MY ‘credentials’ and I believe I deserve an answer to the above
    > > > > question?

    > > > Usenet is a group of people with common interests, trading information
    > > > freely, and those who participate have no demand responsibility to
    > > > respond to posts of any sort. If your posting arouses interest in any
    > > > of those participants, you might receive replies; if not, you will not.
    > > > If you wish to ask questions with the expectation that you _deserve_
    > > > answers, it may be that you will need to search out a fee-for-service
    > > > relationship.

    > > Oh I would pay to have someone answer my question believe you me.. but..
    > > "what the market will bear" is not my idea of ‘all of us being in this
    > > together’.. As to my *expectation* to receiving a reply.. What I mean by that
    > > is.. you can type in my page.. phytic acid.. in my book.. which is almost ten
    > > years old now.. and then say I didn’t .. call .. it? Therefore.. NOW .. I
    > > might be taken a little more seriously… ‘when’ I ask a question? We ARE
    > > speaking to asthma/allergy and therefore I ‘assumed’… obviously misinformed
    > > .. that someone on this list would have the ‘connections’ or the intelligence
    > > to answer the question? If you see what I mean? Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus

    > As to getting a ‘simple’ answer to a simple question and the ‘frustration’..
    > ;) involved? About four years ago I was reading an article and ‘spotted’
    > something. I posted the article to a few lists and asked outright.. "Does
    > this article state .. "the immunes system creates an immune system ‘reaction’
    > AGAINST.. iron.!" I ‘finally’ .. caught a guy was foolish enough to answer..
    > ;) and realizing he ‘knew’ something about this type of stuff.. I had to ask
    > him OUTRIGHT .. THREE times in email if it ‘obviously’.. stated that .."the
    > immune system ‘turns’ on the iron itself".. "He yelled.. yes..".. ;) Got an
    > answer though.. ;)

    > This article JUST appears in Medline and it seems the body DOES form
    > anti-ferritin/iron .. anti-bodies.. ;) I could be wrong.. I don’t know a
    > whole lot about this .. but it appears to be ‘bad’?
    > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query_old?uid=11045759&
    > b You want to hear how Aids patients whose iron transferrin saturation is
    > high cannot ‘kick’ the disease OUT of the blood but those with lower
    > saturation.. can? Thought not.. ;)

    One thing about this thread which ‘may’ be ‘good’ .. if you can call it
    that.. is that YOU GUYS NOW KNOW.. how truly .. ‘alone’ you are out here? I
    come onto the group.. with ‘credentials’.. I ‘called’ cancer.. and I ‘called’
    colitis.. supported by medical articles. I ask a simple question .. and
    cannot get an answer? Either you guys have been totally misguided .. in
    believing there IS truly someone monitoring these lists who actually ‘give a
    shit’ about you.. or expecially that ‘faceless’ kid that is going to die ..
    gasping for breath? Five years ago.. a man wrote from Romania.. kid with
    cystic fibrosis.. The kid is going to die.. that is the scenario. Die
    horribly. So I.. in my misguided ignorance.. ;) tell him to give the kid lots
    of antioxidants and remove the iron from her body.. excess iron. Never heard
    back. Look now into cystic fibrosis and iron and HOW they are treating it
    now? ;) I had no studies back then linking cystic fibrosis to iron? Again
    just my faith.. that I .. HAVE.. discovered the truth? Was I wrong to ‘suffer
    the slings and arrows’.. ? Yep.. I believe I was. I never said anything to
    the kid on my sons baseball team who can’t breathe because of cystic
    fibrosis.. BECAUSE.. my son doesn’t like it when I speak to people about
    their illness.. it inevitably brings the kind of reaction I get on this and
    other lists. To this day I think of this kid and how I didn’t attempt to
    help/inform her parents as to the benefit afforded by antioxidants. As I
    said.. NOW.. they are treating CF with antioxidants and iron chelation. Who
    loves ya. Tom — Jesus was a Vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman Iron
    In Disease http://www.waste.org/~lanshark/vegan/iron.html Iron In Disease
    http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no3/weinberg.htm

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