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RESULT: sci.med.diseases.blood fails 78:7

                                RESULT
         unmoderated group sci.med.diseases.blood fails 78:7

There were 78 YES votes and 7 NO votes, for a total of 85 valid votes.  There
were 5 abstains.  There were 13 invalidated ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may
not be voted on again for six months.

Newsgroups line:
sci.med.diseases.blood  Information about any human blood diseases.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the
proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Robert Tollen <lov2…@ibm.net>
Mentor: Richard Miller <r…@bcm.tmc.edu>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <j…@primenet.com>

RATIONALE: sci.med.diseases.blood

Many different diseases affect blood. In the United States alone
approximately 72,000 people have sickle cell anemia with about
2,000,000 carrying the trait. There are 20,000 hemophilia patients
in the U.S. Each year, nearly 27,000 adults and more than 2,000
children in the United States learn that they have leukemia
(statistics are from NIH and Cancernet web sites). There is now
a listserv named MPD-SUPPORT-L which has 800+ recipients and has
a daily traffic of 10 to 40 postings. All postings can be seen at
http://listserv.aol.com/archives/mpd-support-l.html MPD stands
for Myelo Proliferative Disorders, which are diseases of the blood.
The myeloproliferative disorders include polycythemia vera (PV),
chronic myelogenous leukemia, agnogenic myeloid metaplasia, and
essential thrombocythemia (ET). This newsgroup will include these
plus all other diseases of the blood including sickle cell anemia.
The WWW.DEJANEWS.COM HEALTH and FITNESS discussions have been
searched with the keywords of "blood and  diseases" and no
alternate newsgroups were found to exist. Shared information on
treatment of blood diseases is important to participants because
in many instances there is a wide variety of treatments for the
same disease.  The grave seriousness of most questions and
replies significantly outweigh any fluctuation in daily traffic.
Blood diseases are so complicated that a newly diagnosed patient
deserves support and facts, no matter how rare the disease.

CHARTER: sci.med.diseases.blood

Many people have some form of blood disease, either detected or not.
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for
communication between patients, scientists and any other individuals
with interest in diseases of the blood. Such communications will
provide quick and effective means to exchange information and
knowledge, offer encouragement, and solve problems.

The sci.med.diseases.blood newsgroup will target participants who are
afflicted with any blood disorder. Doctors, researchers, students or
anyone with interest in diseases of the blood will also be welcome.

A FAQ for new users will be posted on a regular basis.

No binary posts will be allowed.

No advertisements will be allowed.

END CHARTER.

VOTETAKER’S NOTE:

13 ballots were received from mia-cs52-001-vty67.as.wcom.net
[209.154.12.67] between 08:06 and 08:36 on 20 January, claiming to be from
a variety of different addresses and, curiously, all with the real names
typed entirely in lower case.

sci.med.diseases.blood Final Vote Ack — this is not a mailing list!

Voted Yes
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alex.dawson = uea.ac.uk                                            Alex Dawson
ascott ]/ pacifier.com                                           Alan P. Scott
bill_supon (<$| yahoo.com                                             W. Supon
bogie {)~] xs4all.nl                                       Boudewijn van Ingen
bouvin & daimi.au.dk                                         Niels Olof Bouvin
buff )#` pobox.com                                              William Denton
carlson {, ironbridgenetworks.com                                James Carlson
ceichler _^> enteract.com                                      Charles Eichler
chriseb =(_] nortelnetworks.com                                 Chris Ebenezer
cpl1 &=] hades.uchicago.edu                                         Corey Liss
david {+, farrar.com                                              David Farrar
davidsen # tmr.com                                               bill davidsen
djb }|/] v2000.scream.org                                         Dan Birchall
doc _+^ america.net                                                  Rob Wynne
dougob ^&){ the-spa.com                                           Dave O’Brien
edward =]#> paleo.org                                              Edward Reid
eg414 (~ freenet.carleton.ca                                      Tina M. Wood
Ekkehard.Uthke ] gmx.de                                         Ekkehard Uthke
ellis =~) ftel.net                                                  Rick Ellis
eridani $} databasix.com                                               Belinda
evert *{[# royal.net                                              Evert Meulie
finn ` nasw.org                                                    Robert Finn
fogazzid ^ softhome.net                                        Daniele Fogazzi
fran_keeling -)[+ my-deja.com                                  Frances Keeling
fyr+news ]<)~ nabab.teaser.fr                                 Francois RANCHIN
gardener _ mail.ocis.net                                            Ann Hughes
gheston } mail.HiWAAY.net                                       Gary L. Heston
h.slama , gmx.net                                               Heribert Slama
hfung $# CSUPomona.Edu                                               Hank Fung
ianatasm #$ netcomuk.co.uk                                           Ian Baird
ianlivesey { beeb.net                                              ian livesey
IgoneKrazy >(&| aol.com                                           Julie Refkin
jcrouch = enteract.com                                             Jude Crouch
jmcgarry _=> uoguelph.ca                                         James McGarry
John_David_Galt ]|&# acm.org                                   John David Galt
jolomo / netcom.com                                                 Joe Morris
julesd &]{` erols.com                                             Jules Dubois
jwootton `, home.com                                              Jean Wootton
kamlet *((^ infinet.com                                          Arthur Kamlet
kb5cng ($ amsat.org                                           R.L. Bo Thompson
kennedy ( eninet.eas.asu.edu                                  Ralph D. Kennedy
kimdv & best.com                                                  Kim DeVaughn
kneecap *> netnet.net                                              Neal Cappel
kristian.liimatainen ~*}] helsinki.fi                        Lauri Liimatainen
lanzyg |= attglobal.net                                          Garrett Lanzy
lov2laf [# attglobal.net                                         Robert Tollen
lrf $/^& leukaemia.demon.co.uk                                    Ken Campbell
mcclenon / erols.com                                              Bob McClenon
mclaudi ~[~ totalise.co.uk                                     Dave McLaughlin
minhan (=/ pacific.net.sg                                          Tan Min-Han
mph -[ astro.caltech.edu                                          Matthew Hunt
mtaylor `( lrim.com                                                Mark Taylor
nhoffm ~>)= in-kiel.de                                        Norbert Hoffmann
olav ,(& viking.mv.com                                         Olav Nieuwejaar
qui #_ iobox.fi                                                    jui enquien
renate.sch (& gmx.at                                         Renate Schininger
richw ($/< webcom.com                                               Rich Wales
rick }*) bcm.tmc.edu                                            Richard Miller
rockwallaby ]{# erols.com                                       Chris Thompson
rridges _= metz.une.edu.au                                      Rebecca Ridges
rufinus }>=* mbe.ece.wisc.edu                                        J Rufinus
sackv -( uni-duesseldorf.de                                        Victor Sack
salazar _[) popd.ix.netcom.com                                    Rick Salazar
SESalazar & aol.com                                              Susan Salazar
shrao * nyx.net                                                    Shrisha Rao
smlucas }&_# famvid.com                                           Steven Lucas
speirs =_$ chebucto.ns.ca                                spe…@chebucto.ns.ca
tajima {+$ med.teikyo-u.ac.jp                                     Yasuo Tajima
tc `/ Mcs.Net                                                      Thomas Cuny
teta ] erinet.com                                                 Deborah Marr
tgm } netcom.com                                          Thomas G. McWilliams
trevort -|*| vianet.on.ca                                       Trevor Tymchuk
uthman ,| neosoft.com                                                Ed Uthman
vote-8 ) kholdan.snafu.de                                          Tobias Erle
wakelyn -/ pinn.net                                              N. T. Wakelyn
wiz -]> lart.com                                                    Mike Craig
WmHBlair ~$| dnai.com                                         William H. Blair
xanthian <<` well.com                                          Kent Paul Dolan

Voted No
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gprrspw / mindspring.com                                             G.P. Ryan
janus +# cwo.com                                                   Keith

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7 Responses to “RESULT: sci.med.diseases.blood fails 78:7”

  1. admin says:

    Sigh.  Lost again for lack of interest.  I’m a participant, mostly
    passively, in a mailing list for just _one_ blood originated disease,
    mycosis fungoides, a mailing list that  has roughly 400 members, and it
    is for one of the rarer cancers on the planet, about 1/400,000 in the
    population develop it.

    With so many experiencing more prevalent blood related diseases, there
    is surely a large community of interest in blood-related diseases out
    there, but apparently not so high an interest in the Usenet voting
    process, and I don’t feel free to be spamming peaceful mailing lists
    with Usenet vote solicitations to overcome that.

    I guess the Usenet voting process is pretty broken as an estimator of
    the utility of a newly proposed newsgroup, but I’m not quite sure how,
    nor am I willing to try to fix it; the level of controversy experienced
    in such efforts has at long last become unpleasent to me.

    My thanks to Alan and Huck, two of my friends wo took the time to vote
    in favor, and to the others, strangers to me, who did as well.

    Kent Paul Dolan
    Whistle Communications, an IBM Company
    110 Marsh Drive
    Foster City, CA 94404
    1 650 577 7025           : work phone number for voice or voice mail
    1 650 577 7005           : work phone number for inbound facsimiles
    <xanth…@whistle.com>   : work computer account email
    <xanth…@well.com>      : permanent ISP account email
    <xanth…@aztec.asu.edu> : free      ISP account email

  2. admin says:

    Kent Paul Dolan <xanth…@well.com> wrote in message
    news:oWwj4.796$dw3.38290@news.wenet.net…

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > Sigh.  Lost again for lack of interest.  I’m a participant, mostly
    > passively, in a mailing list for just _one_ blood originated disease,
    > mycosis fungoides, a mailing list that  has roughly 400 members, and it
    > is for one of the rarer cancers on the planet, about 1/400,000 in the
    > population develop it.

    > With so many experiencing more prevalent blood related diseases, there
    > is surely a large community of interest in blood-related diseases out
    > there, but apparently not so high an interest in the Usenet voting
    > process, and I don’t feel free to be spamming peaceful mailing lists
    > with Usenet vote solicitations to overcome that.

    > I guess the Usenet voting process is pretty broken as an estimator of
    > the utility of a newly proposed newsgroup, but I’m not quite sure how,
    > nor am I willing to try to fix it; the level of controversy experienced
    > in such efforts has at long last become unpleasent to me.

    > My thanks to Alan and Huck, two of my friends wo took the time to vote
    > in favor, and to the others, strangers to me, who did as well.

    > Kent Paul Dolan
    > Whistle Communications, an IBM Company
    > 110 Marsh Drive
    > Foster City, CA 94404
    > 1 650 577 7025           : work phone number for voice or voice mail
    > 1 650 577 7005           : work phone number for inbound facsimiles
    > <xanth…@whistle.com>   : work computer account email
    > <xanth…@well.com>      : permanent ISP account email
    > <xanth…@aztec.asu.edu> : free      ISP account email

  3. admin says:

    In article <oWwj4.796$dw3.38…@news.wenet.net>, Kent Paul Dolan wrote:

    >With so many experiencing more prevalent blood related diseases, there
    >is surely a large community of interest in blood-related diseases out
    >there, but apparently not so high an interest in the Usenet voting
    >process, and I don’t feel free to be spamming peaceful mailing lists
    >with Usenet vote solicitations to overcome that.

    >I guess the Usenet voting process is pretty broken as an estimator of
    >the utility of a newly proposed newsgroup, but I’m not quite sure how,
    >nor am I willing to try to fix it; the level of controversy experienced
    >in such efforts has at long last become unpleasent to me.

    I agree.

    I suggest you just create an alt.* group:
    alt.support.blood-diseases


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  4. admin says:

    In article <oWwj4.796$dw3.38…@news.wenet.net>,
    Kent Paul Dolan <xanth…@well.com> wrote:

    >I guess the Usenet voting process is pretty broken as an estimator of
    >the utility of a newly proposed newsgroup, but I’m not quite sure how,
    >nor am I willing to try to fix it; the level of controversy experienced
    >in such efforts has at long last become unpleasent to me.

    Kent,

      The problem is that it’s a bitch and a half trying to get a
    newsgroup up and running nowadays.  We’ve found that with the current
    crop of users if they’re not already on usenet, they’re unlikely to
    move there.  Sad, but true.

      Unless there’s a strong proponant team and a bunch of people willing
    to bug their sites to put the group on their server, the group fails.

    Jay

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  5. admin says:

    Jonathan Grobe (grobe+n…@netins.net) wrote:

    : In article <oWwj4.796$dw3.38…@news.wenet.net>, Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
    : >
    : >With so many experiencing more prevalent blood related diseases, there
    : >is surely a large community of interest in blood-related diseases out
    : >there, but apparently not so high an interest in the Usenet voting
    : >process, and I don’t feel free to be spamming peaceful mailing lists
    : >with Usenet vote solicitations to overcome that.
    : >
    : >I guess the Usenet voting process is pretty broken as an estimator of
    : >the utility of a newly proposed newsgroup, but I’m not quite sure how,
    : >nor am I willing to try to fix it; the level of controversy experienced
    : >in such efforts has at long last become unpleasent to me.

    : I agree.

    : I suggest you just create an alt.* group:
    : alt.support.blood-diseases

    not in this case. This group was not designed to be a support group but a
    general medical group about diseases of the blood. Although somew of the
    aspects of a support group is there, the thrust (as i read the RFD) was
    for a medical group.

    That being said I think that perhaps a sci.med.disease might  be in
    order. (There are several specific groups in this hierarchy but not a general
    group).

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  6. admin says:

    And the times were Wed, 26 Jan 2000 06:58:28 GMT. And lo, I beheld
    xanth…@well.com (Kent Paul Dolan) who spoke unto the multitudes,
    saying:

    >Sigh.  Lost again for lack of interest.  I’m a participant, mostly
    >passively, in a mailing list for just _one_ blood originated disease,
    >mycosis fungoides, a mailing list that  has roughly 400 members, and it
    >is for one of the rarer cancers on the planet, about 1/400,000 in the
    >population develop it.

    Hard luck man. If there is something that I can do to help you out if
    there is another round, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

    Your blood group seems much more applicable that some of the new ones
    getting approved nowadays, plus its not time limited like
    alt.fan.some.new.teenybopper.dawson-creek.star. Tough that internet
    has gone so far from its grass roots that interested groups aren’t
    allowed their proper forum.

    Wish you well in the future,

    All the best,
    Robert

  7. admin says:

    In news.groups Robert O’Connor <ro…@–spamsad–ireland.com> wrote:

    >Your blood group seems much more applicable that some of the new ones
    >getting approved nowadays, plus its not time limited like
    >alt.fan.some.new.teenybopper.dawson-creek.star. Tough that internet
    >has gone so far from its grass roots that interested groups aren’t
    >allowed their proper forum.

    You are mistaking the intent of the Big-8 news groups.  They are
    not alt.* groups, and they are groups for popular topics on
    usenet.  Utility and quality are mostly irrelevant.  If you want
    a group that isn’t a popular topic, try alt.*, and maybe the
    interest will build from there.  But it looks to me like the
    intersted parties prefer mailing lists as the forum on discussion.

    ru